tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31875695.post4630356809344169214..comments2024-02-07T21:24:37.121-08:00Comments on Blogtrotter: How humanists might trust the spiritJohn L. Murphy / "Fionnchú"http://www.blogger.com/profile/16616876266772470719noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31875695.post-45683100160371873972010-03-04T13:21:51.124-08:002010-03-04T13:21:51.124-08:00How did Ginsberg & Leonard Cohen manage to sit...How did Ginsberg & Leonard Cohen manage to sit still so long, is what I wonder, them being iconoclasts and all by nature! I agree that a retreat of whatever denomination would bring out the miscreant in me. <br /><br />Ok, I'll check Moore out, despite the too-cute name of him and his tome.John L. Murphy / "Fionnchú"https://www.blogger.com/profile/16616876266772470719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31875695.post-4209944657607703352010-03-04T12:36:31.015-08:002010-03-04T12:36:31.015-08:00I only read an excerpt - his account of a trip to ...I only read an excerpt - his account of a trip to the pretentious John Daido Loori's Upstate NY retreat. It is snarky, but also has honest, level-headed observations on 'seeking' in general. Moore notes how Hanh was his first and greatest inspiration.<br /><br /><br />(Attending any retreat, even a buddhist one, would provide an irresistible temptation for this iconoclast to misbehave immaturely.)tamerlanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31875695.post-50772958729077154772010-03-03T14:55:38.835-08:002010-03-03T14:55:38.835-08:00TL, you're the one that told me about "dr...TL, you're the one that told me about "drala" and Shambhala Training! Thanks for the assiduous and amusing footnotes-- I resisted checking out Moore's book as I suspected its snarky tone, but I may give it a go, me being a skeptic like yourself.John L. Murphy / "Fionnchú"https://www.blogger.com/profile/16616876266772470719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31875695.post-55685067925172696942010-03-02T19:04:32.042-08:002010-03-02T19:04:32.042-08:001. People in glass worldviews shouldn't throw...1. People in glass worldviews shouldn't throw stones: the height of irrationality is belief in the supernatural. For a stimulating discussion with Dennett, Dawkins, and even the addled Denys Turner, see Jonathan Miller's "The Atheism Tapes";<br /><br />2. The futile, adolescent windmill tilt of the White Rose gets all the glory, while the desperate, intransigent and eminently heroic efforts of Treschkow, Oster, Böselager, von der Bussche, et al. is given short shrift;<br /><br />3. Isaac Hayes. But then he joined MindThink, and quit South Park. Then he died;<br /><br />4. For a Dave Barry-esque or Buck Henry-ish take on Buddhist retreats, read "The Accidental Buddhist" by Dinty W. Moore (a person, not a soup), which can be found in the otherwise useless "Why Meditate?"<br /><br />5. Thich Nhat Hanh is rolaids for the soul!tamerlanehttp://trueliberalnexus.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com